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mettamage
Switch Angel is awesome. She also has some Instagram tutorials.
fragmede
Dj Dave is the other creator I've found doing strudel content.
mettamage
Yea, Switch Angel and DJ Dave have a collab together somewhere. Probably on their Instagram, they are pretty active there.
amanzi
I meant to include a link to DJ Dave, but it looks like I copy/pasted the same URL twice!
juliangoldsmith
"Hard Refresh" and "Airglow" made it onto my "On Repeat" playlist almost immediately.
guskel
So random seeing her mentioned here today. I just discovered her yesterday, saw a Youtube short where she's operating a Eurorack synth at Switched On in Austin, TX. It's a cool little synth shop that's worth checking out if you're ever in town. Looks like they've moved locations recently though.
user_7832
> So random seeing her mentioned here today. I just discovered her yesterday
I literally came across her on my youtube feed an hour back, and thought it'd be something HN would love.
Still distracted, I opened HN's default news page. Aaaand I saw this thread and your comment. So, no free karma for me lol, but still hope to see good discussions about the software. It feels very hacker-ey in an old-skool kinda fun way!
jkingsman
This was one of my favorites -- with the voice filter the narration feels like it's part of the song which I found especially fun.
lyu07282
That channel has been all over my recommendations, it's awesome so much skill!
dolebirchwood
Me too! Came on YouTube feed today. Blown the fuck away. I Google Strudel REPL to learn more and found this thread as well. :)
So stoked to play with this.
QuantumNomad_
You accidentally pasted the same link twice. What was the second link meant to be? Would like to see it also :)
tines
Someone should remix the audio in this video, including vocals.
raffael_de
Strudel is a JavaScript port of TidalCycles (Haskell). While TC uses SuperCollider for the synthesis, Strudel uses superdough which seems to be a custom implementation. I'm currently learning SuperCollider sclang and waiting for a version upgrade to have a reason to submit it here - usually some of the discussion is quite insightful. Anyway sclang is the PHP of music - just uglier and less consistent. But it's also powerful and and quite fun.
awongh
In the supercollider forum there is talk about a wasm port of supercollider: https://scsynth.org/t/webassembly-support/3037
I wonder if that could be used at some point.
nucleogenesis
I was goofing around with TidalCycles and really wanted to use it for the Haskell syntax but Strudel’s interface is so slick I suffer the JS syntax.
Thanks for mentioning superdough I hadn’t seen it anywhere while I was playing with all of the above. Piqued my curiosity :)
jsmith45
Might be worth checking out Tidal's Mondo Notation, which while not quite Haskell syntax is far closer to it, being a proper functional style notion, that unifies with mini notation, so no need for wrapping many things in strings.
Looks like this:
mondo`
$ note (c2 # euclid <3 6 3> <8 16>) # *2
# s "sine" # add (note [0 <12 24>]*2)
# dec(sine # range .2 2)
# room .5
# lpf (sine/3 # range 120 400)
# lpenv (rand # range .5 4)
# lpq (perlin # range 5 12 # \* 2)
# dist 1 # fm 4 # fmh 5.01 # fmdecay <.1 .2>
# postgain .6 # delay .1 # clip 5
$ s [bd bd bd bd] # bank tr909 # clip .5
# ply <1 [1 [2 4]]>
$ s oh*4 # press # bank tr909 # speed.8
# dec (<.02 .05>*2 # add (saw/8 # range 0 1)) # color "red"
`
await initTidal()
tidal`
d1
$ sub (note "12 0")
$ sometimes (|+ note "12")
$ jux rev $ voicing $ n "<0 5 4 2 3(3,8)/2>*8"
# chord "<Dm Dm7 Dm9 Dm11>"
# dec 0.5 # delay 0.5 # room 0.5 # vib "4:.25"
# crush 8 # s "sawtooth" # lpf 800 # lpd 0.1
# dist 1
d2
$ s "RolandTR909_bd*4, hh(10,16), oh(-10,16)"
# clip (range 0.1 0.9 $ fast 5 $ saw)
# release 0.04 # room 0.5
`
But it is currently broken on the REPL site because of https://codeberg.org/uzu/strudel/pulls/1510 and https://codeberg.org/uzu/strudel/issues/1335
1313ed01
When I last played with SuperCollider I used Overtone, that wraps everything in a Closure API. With that you use s-expressions instead of sclang to define your sounds. I am not sure what the state of Overtone is these days, but there seems to still be some activity: https://overtone.github.io/
zahlman
sclang came across to me as something like a hybrid of Smalltalk and Ruby. It's indeed very "inconsistent" and weirdly familiar-yet-alien, but I would consider it a lot more elegant than PHP.
awongh
This is cool because a lot of the current tools are a bit old and I feel a bit like they suffer from NIH (not invented here) syndrome, where what is actually needed is for things to just be in javascript.
This wasn’t possible as much when the last gen of tools came out (sonic pi etc) but I think the time is right.
The next iteration that would be cool is a true two-way interface between the visualizations and the code. Right now the slider is a really awesome element, for example. I think Bret Victor would be proud.
lovehashbrowns
I'm not very musically inclined but this is what I was able to make:
$: arrange( [4, "<sh09_bd>(4,8)"], [4, "<sh09_bd>(4,8)"], [1, "<sh09_bd mfb512_sd>(6,6)"] ).s().fast(2).layer(x=>x.add("0,2")).gain(".4!2 .5").phaser(2).phasercenter("<4000 800 4000 4000>")
$: s("gm_tinkle_bell").distort("<1 2 1 2:.5>").crush("<8 8 8 6 6 8 8>").chop(4)
$: arrange( [2, "<c4 e4 g4>(3,8)"], [1, "<f4 a4 c5>(3,8)"], [1, "<c4 e4 g4>(3,8)"] ).note().chop(4).fast(4).distort("<3:.5>").phaser(4).phasercenter("<800>").fm(4).fmdecay("<.05 .05 .1 .2>").fmsustain(.4)._scope()
I don't know what half this stuff does but it was still so much fun and this is probably one of my favorite projects ever. What made it most fun for me is that the reference docs are in the page so it's really easy to pick something at random and just see what it does.
chwzr
Oh and there is flok[1] which combines the strudel repl with visuals from hydra. Also there are sclang and other algorave environments available. Everything is synced (with crdts i guess) so it’s live collaborative. Which is nice to remotely jam with friends
[1] https://flok.cc
yaxu
You can also use hydra in the standard strudel repl, and vice-versa.
mkesper
And quite new dilber.io: https://github.com/Omodaka9375/Dilber
fragmede
Also Gibber: http://gibber.cc/
polotics
I like this intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRJ0xrjLj6A
zahlman
Uncaught (in promise) ReferenceError: AudioContext is not defined
ln https://strudel.cc/_astro/spectrum.Bf7jMx6O.js:1
W https://strudel.cc/_astro/spectrum.Bf7jMx6O.js:1
un https://strudel.cc/_astro/spectrum.Bf7jMx6O.js:1
c https://strudel.cc/_astro/spectrum.Bf7jMx6O.js:1
ako
This being text based makes it really easy to have AI generate the music. Now waiting for Strudel agent that will transcribe music into strudel notation.
zahlman
I like doing my own composition, but AI being able to just do sound design from a prompt ("hey can you make a synth that sounds like the lead from XYZ song but buzzier, add parameters to control ABC") would be revolutionary.
fragmede
Yes that's possible. Here's Sonnet 4.5 for your request: https://claude.ai/share/5672940d-99b3-4b01-9a9f-fb22ca59fa41
What the implications are for music, I don't know.
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dragonwriter
> This being text based makes it really easy to have AI generate the music.
It's already really easy for AI to generate music without using text as an intermediate format.
noman-land
Before long we can get agents to listen to the music, too. Then based on our prior data can tell us how much we liked it.
fragmede
That'll save me so much time listening to music!
Rochus
Can it make music like e.g. Extempore (see https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_eJ0XdLbWzzq_03wTIMV...)?
All examples I've heard from Strudel so far are pretty boring (constant beat/chord machine music).
Are there examples in other styles?
nucleogenesis
Strudel can use custom samples in addition to the built in synths and samples. The language is really expressive. I’ve not gone too far into playing with it but from what I’ve seen it’s pretty flexible.
That said I’ve only seen people making house/techno/drum-n-bass kinda stuff with it.
Rochus
The syntax is pretty relevant for the kind/compexity of the aspired music. The music from the examples is quite simple compared to what Soerensen does with his Lisp-like syntax. Strudel seems to go more towards SuperCollider syntax, which from my humble point of view is better suited for offline productions.
kymki
I added an example of some music other than what you describe in comments above (below? in some direction)?
999900000999
Awesome!
Tide Cycles doesn't work on Fedora, so I might use this instead. Anyway to get it running as a node js script so I use it locally?
joeatwork
It will run locally in a web browser, it’s open source and if I recall correctly the authors provide a downloadable way to serve it from your local machine.
jarmitage
Here's my (Lil Data) remix of DJ_Dave's Array
mamonoleechi
thanks to share! I like having examples to see how the stuff actually works :)
quick question, where do strudel load those sounds? snd/bass/build_0.mp3 (line 11) ? are those built in samples?
mamonoleechi
If you're new to this, you can check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuSZQnkOB_Y
It will explain the process DJDave uses to create music under strudel
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There are some pretty amazing live coding sessions of Strudel on YouTube. Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgV_-nJOuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgV_-nJOuE