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francis_t_catte

I have a Symmetricom ExacTime ET6000 that had a Motorola Oncore M12+ mounted to an ACE-III interposer made by Synergy systems that hadn't suffered from a rollover yet, but instead had a 3 month leap second induced offset. I went the (mildly easier) route with a Furuno GT-8736D, then modifying the interposer with a level shifter for the serial lines as the ET6000 uses 5v TTL logic, and the Furuno chipset is only rated for 3.6v maximum (and so was the M12+, for that matter!).

tverbeure

My first board rev had level shifters too, but they weren’t needed in the end.

userbinator

Several years ago I fixed an MTK GPS module in a smartphone with the same problem by RE'ing the firmware and patching the date boundary in it. I wonder if that's possible with this module too.

floam

Seems this guy[0] could do just that if only he had access to a SyncServer S200? The very author of this blog post replied to the person and told them about his interposer solution, he’s not unaware.

> It may also be possible to build similar patches for other units, such as the S200/S250. But currently I only have access to S350 and XLi.

[0]: https://lists.febo.com/empathy/thread/UXOVZ2E4YGGNPSXLJSELLK...

tverbeure

Alex’s solution doesn’t patch the module itself, but it patches the FW of the MCU in the SyncServer motherboard that drives the module.

People have looked into patching the module itself, but I haven’t seen any progress on that. It’s possible that the M430 MCU doesn’t allow dumping of the FW that is stored in on-chip flash.

nullc

My understanding is that someone has developed hacked firmware for the XLi, they're just not sure that they can lawfully distribute it.

ufocia

RP0 seems like such overkill for the problem. It's like shooting a mosquito with a howitzer.

tverbeure

They’re less than $1 on AliExpress and $4 on Amazon. Do you really want to spend time optimizing for something cheaper just because you don’t want to waste some MIPS?

wildzzz

The cost of buying an off the shelf GPS module to replace the original is so high that any price difference in microcontrollers or even an SoC is negligible. You could drop an entire raspberry pi in there and still be saving money.

tverbeure

Exactly.

There’s also the fact that I have RP2040-Zeros ready to use in a drawer. They’re so convenient, tiny, cheap, still lots of pins, always enough performance, easy to program with just a USB cable. Any other MCU, and I’d have add power regulator, caps, coils and a USB connector. Add the cost of shipping from Mouser/Digikey (at least $5) or LCSC (long wait time) and it only makes sense for high volumes. IOW: never.

zokier

otoh you can just buy complete gps based ntp servers from china for <$100, so there is that too.

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Interposer to fix the Symmetricom SyncServer S200 GPS week rollover problem - Hacker News