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koito17
The important part is the linked GitHub comment from the primary maintainer (and owner) of the Nitter project. To save readers a click
Guest accounts have been removed, they weren't just led to believe that. With real accounts getting rate limited immediately and likely banned, I don't see any path forward for Nitter.
Source: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-191...The way I interpret this comment is that all public Nitter instances are at risk of becoming inoperable (at their current scale).
mastazi
> (and owner) of Nitter.
I would say that Nitter as a whole is not owned by anyone, that person is the owner of one of the Nitter instances, in addition to being the primary maintainer of the project as you correctly stated.
I agree with the second part of your comment about all instances being in danger. It is unfortunately a common problem faced by many privacy-respecting frontends (Nitter, Libreddit, Proxigram, Piped etc)
koito17
I really meant to say "owner of the Nitter project", but you are nonetheless correct about ownership of Nitter instances. I have edited my post.
riedel
I counted 10 instances recently going down on the status page. There is at least a correlation, probably a cause.
proctrap
This is one of the long time running instances shutting down, linking to the primary nitter author saying it's the end for all instances eventually. And providing insights from the status page.
If they don't get new guest accounts, they're all going to shut down withing 30 days. It's just left over accounts and caches giving you the impression everything is fine.
Don't forget the rolling DoS herds of scrapers having no more ways to do stuff on their own, which are now trying to use the remaining instances - killing even more.
amatecha
I shouldn't have to paste this here, but: "If nothing changes, all remaining instances will go down eventually: Instances rely on guest accounts, which are valid for a certain time and of which you need a ton to run a public instance. The API for this got taken down and it doesn't look like a fluke this time."
lapcat
It's unfortunate that this mistaken comment is top voted.
"If nothing changes, all remaining instances will go down eventually: Instances rely on guest accounts, which are valid for a certain time and of which you need a ton to run a public instance. The API for this got taken down and it doesn't look like a fluke this time."
nubinetwork
Except half of the instances are rate limited, so unless you know the username or tweet you are looking for, good luck searching for anything.
Dylan16807
Oh, does it mostly affect searching?
99% of the time I touch twitter, it's to go to a specific tweet or timeline.
nubinetwork
I don't know for sure, I've been watching a couple accounts that have been dormant for a while, but several instances have broken search, so maybe the account pages are cached.
Edit: I just checked an instance and it seems to have tweets from the past minute or two, but if the backend accounts that drive them are getting banned, it's probably gonna tank in the upcoming weeks.
Truth_Wins_0x0
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geor9e
Good to hear. I only follow specific users via nitter (via Feedbro extension)
dang
The submitted title was "Nitter Is Dead". We changed it to the article title overnight, but I've since changed it to a representative sentence from the text.
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Astraco
nitter.cz and nitter.net are having issues and being rate limited.
neilv
If all Nitter instances get shut down, that's another reason for people to stop putting information into the Twitter/X walled-garden.
Nitter has had the effect of a pressure release valve, for the people who object most to Twitter/X.
Without the Nitter compromise, more people will stop linking to Twitter/X threads, indulging people who still post there, etc.
xwowsersx
I'm with you that this is disappointing, but folks who use these sorts of tools tend to be a bit naive about the impact of them going away. It's a little silly, to be honest. Best numbers I could come by is X does something like 100B impressions/day and x.com saw 1.2B visits in the month of December. Will some people stop seeing X posts on Nitter? Sure, maybe. Will it matter to X? I doubt it.
add-sub-mul-div
It's created a reverse eternal September. The masses stay confined to one place. Other places can flourish with the old school smaller community kind of feel and quality. Let twitter live in its current state if it means other places won't be taken over by influencers and other bullshit.
nomilk
This is nice in theory. I haven't used any twitter alternatives but others seem to report that their content is more or less the same as twitter's.
hexage1814
Will the other places resist to VC money or other shenanigans though? That's the question...
muppetman
Exactly. Even the reddit blackouts etc did nothing really - sure a few people left in a huff and all that jazz, but Reddit is still trucking along happily. The only time I've seen the "eff it, we're leaving!" thing actually work was with Digg v4.
Eisenstein
I have seen a considerable degrading of quality on reddit since the blackouts. I use reddit for quality subject discussion in topics ranging from pressure cooking to circuit design but I also use it for general crappy banter and time wasting, and the people who would contribute useful content in the former have decreased in number while the latter have increased making the signal to noise much worse.
It doesn't help that they have started placing content from more obscure subreddits onto people's front pages seemingly randomly, so people wander into places and have no idea what the culture is they are contributing to and add content which is wildly out of place.
To get subject matter discussion which is reasonable I have been wandering back to bespoke forums, which isn't necessarily bad, but they still have a lot of issues. A lot of other content has moved to discord, but I won't get into how I feel about that.
nunez
Nah, the blackouts definitely hurt Reddit. Deleted posts are the norm now. This was not the case before the API changes.
neilv
Although, I'm surprised how often I'm seeing the key comments I was searching for deleted. I haven't been keeping stats, but maybe around half the time.
Some Reddit metrics might've hardly noticed the blips, but if they had metrics for early-Reddit qualities, such as for smart (or clever) comments, helpful information, humor, or goodwill... I suspect those would be bad. Where they're not bad might be non-frontpage subs that are still cruising along with their earlier communities. But those communities started in earlier Reddit, and I suspect that today would not have started there.
AndroTux
Tumblr with their NSFW removal change as well.
lucb1e
> Twitter/X walled-garden
I think the MIME type should be `X-Walled-Garden/Twitter`
teddyh
Internet media types (previously known as “MIME types”) with “X-” prefixes are now discouraged.
vineyardmike
For many in this thread, X is now discouraged as well. /s
HackerThemAll
Don't despair. I've never heard of this Nitter, and I'm living quite a successful life.
martin82
I think leftists who are losing their minds over Elon Musk's Twitter are a loud minority. If Nitter goes down, nothing at all will change. Twitter will continue to thrive and people will continue to use it and link to it.
lobocinza
I hate that Twitter is a walled garden but I understand why it is like that today as the well has been poisoned. To be honest I gave it try and it looks like today Mastodon/Bluesky are worse and Twitter better due to the migrations.
hn1986
i agree.
Redirecting proxy for Nitter instances (alternative)
Dalewyn
I am quite sure the people who use Nitter or otherwise detest Mysterious Twitter X are a vocal minority of people.
davorak
Comparing traffic, pre sale, of logged in twitter users vs traffic generated by those without accounts would give insight into what percentage of users have to take action to continue to use twitter normally.
I spent a 1-2 minutes googling and could not come up with numbers though.
I know I am part of the percentage of people that used to read twitter without an account, or at least not logged in, and now read twitter a trivial amount.
timeon
I do not think that people without account are minority.
Tanoc
I'm struggling heavily to find the traffic statistic that I read a year or so ago, but it said that point seven to point nine percent of all Twitter traffic came from Nitter. Considering that at the time there were three different third party front ends that is no small amount, I think somewhere around thirty million visits daily.
echelon
They just aren't the ones posting on the platform.
tentacleuno
I use Twitter, and I detest it. It's mostly spam.
This actually came up in a conversation yesterday, funnily enough: I'm mostly using Twitter because I'm curious as to how much worse it's going to get. So far, I've seen them allow NSFW paid-for advertisements, doxxing of well-known figures, daily crypto mention farming spam (with highly suspicious, easily-detectable patterns, spread across ~10 accounts per day), obvious engagement bait to benefit from ad-revenue sharing, fake interaction spam, and plenty more.
As an excerpt, the @support account on Twitter is completely dead, too -- if I remember correctly, the last reply to an issue was around August / June of last year. So clearly they don't have the staffing needed to support... well, the support, and they seem to have issues admitting that.
That becomes even more clear when you look at the spam on the platform: obvious spam patterns are completely ignored, with reports going to the wayside, and crypto / NFT spam being left up to victimize someone who doesn't know what it really is. It's quite grotesque.
Even though a lot of people may use the platform, quite a substantial amount of people also speak out about how much worse Twitter has got since the acquisition -- while I have nothing against Elon Musk, I find it quite amazing how badly the platform seems to be doing ever since he's been at the helm.
TheChaplain
I find it quite useful, with the exception of the porn ads.
But I strictly follow python developers, bsd people and retro computing enthusiasts. None post any politics.
I think any social media platform can be good/bad just like people in general, it all depends who you interact with.
Dalewyn
None of what you said contests what I said.
Me1000
This is disappointing because often times people link to threads on Twitter but if you’re lucky enough to not get a login wall, the full thread wont be visible without logging in. (Which I’m not going to do)
I really wish people would just stop linking me to twitter (or better yet, stop using it altogether).
add-sub-mul-div
It's a terrible site though and calls to disallow submissions from there (in comments here) were common going back well before Musk took over, so the Twitter dislike originated independently of anyone's views about him.
timeon
Dislike is not priority or let say common denominator. Problem is that X/Twitter cannot be viewed without login. This was not the case before.
smoldesu
In fairness, before Nitter (or even Musk) there was a highly inconsistent guest browsing policy on Twitter. One week you could read entire threads without logging in, the next week every inbound link would redirect to the registration page. Before Nitter I just stopped clicking Twitter links entirely, because I never knew if it would show any content.
At this point, submitting screenshots of a thread you like would unfortunately be more accessible. Shocking that we have to say that about static text content, but here we are in 2024...
add-sub-mul-div
It used to be widely disliked even before the additional newer problem you mentioned.
2OEH8eoCRo0
It sucks. I don't want to use twitter but it's where people post. Nitter fulfilled my lurker only use case.
HereIGoAgain
Same.
mvdtnz
If we're lucky this will discourage HNers from linking to Twitter at all.
s1artibartfast
Why not make an account if you want to read it?
Me1000
I refuse to login to twitter for ethical reasons. If someone links me to a tweet I assume it’s because they thought I’d find it interesting. It’s a thoughtful act which deserves a little bit of effort on my part, so I’m willing to change the domain to see it. I’m not willing to login though. It’s a principle thing.
MikusR
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amenhotep
Not the OP but: because I've never wanted to post there and as far as I'm concerned there's no compelling reason I should need one and I'm so offended by Musk and his attempt to force me to get one that I would rather not read it than let him succeed.
jrflowers
I can happily just not read the tweet. There’s no FOMO if the pool of worthwhile posts is getting smaller, not larger
quickthrower2
1. Don’t want to give Twitter their personal phone number
2. Twitter SMS system can’t deliver to personal number on my network so can’t create account.
3. Banned from Twitter already.
4. Hate Elon.
5. Ethics (various reason)
6. Privacy
7. A lot of work to read a hot take
8. Social media is addictive. The site gives you crack when you log in.
9. Chinese Firewall (and in some occupied lands it may be a crime to use Twitter)
10. Too many logins for shit already.
11. NSFW bot accounts trying to chat you up
addaon
12. Uncomfortable agreeing to their terms of service. (e.g. according to their own summary as well of the text, you are not permitted to learn from the experience of using their mobile app, e.g. about app design principles, because it is "solely for the purpose of enabling you to use and enjoy the benefit of the Services.")
vwkd
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lxgr
Why make me create an account if I want to read e.g. announcements of government organizations? Many of these publish only to Twitter and don't have an RSS feed.
Twitter can't both be the de-facto successor of RSS and a walled garden enforcing signups for read-only users.
dkjaudyeqooe
Having to make an account to read a website sounds idiotic.
Why should twitter be special in that regard?
It's not so you're essentially promoting the idea that we should have to make an account to read any website, which is idiotic.
ipaddr
Many places require an account, many even paid like New York Times but you have all other social media offering limited views to facebook, instagram, tiktok with signing in.
lancesells
Twitter isn't special in that regard. Not having Facebook or Instagram does the same thing or at least you get a very limited view. I think it's all bullshit as those networks exist because of the people are posting as a means to share.
npunt
I just want to run a headless browser that logs into my socials periodically and scrapes the stuff I want from the account I follow and puts it into a less addictive format that provides an upper limit on my possible exposure and engagement. I’m happy to run it locally from my device. Ideally it redirects links to socials I come across too. Where is such a thing?
throwaway84846
This was the dream of RSS, but it went against the long-term business interests of the corporations hosting content, so it has since largely faded away
neuracnu
I literally reached this discussion thread via the RSS feed for HN.
It’s out there. Social networking sites with a vested interest in monopolizing your attention don’t use it. So I don’t use them.
throwaway84846
Outside of the tech community those see little use. Listings for my local music and arts scenes are on Instagram and Facebook. Underground community events are planned using proprietary group chats.
Free culture and open internet activists lost this battle
hot_gril
A lot of news sites still support RSS. Could be that not very many regular people understand RSS or want to use it, aside from podcasts.
geor9e
I started using RSS again recently for this reason. I use it for for facebook, twitter, hackernews, etc. Feedbro extension supports public facebook profiles. Nitter clones like https://farside.link/nitter/elonmusk/rss still work.
crtasm
That URL redirects me to various instances, some of which are not working.
strogonoff
You may want social media to be pipes, not platforms.
Convince the government to forbid the business model in which most of users are not paying customers but a product offered to advertisers. Then, social platforms will not care if you use whatever client you desire.
Big Social shareholders don’t want it, though. Being a double-sided market is addictive, and no one can compete with them if they capture the market by not charging money.
Kye
Another future was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Pipes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashup_(web_application_hybrid...
It's too bad the silofication of the 2010s killed it off.
sokoloff
> Convince the government to forbid the business model in which most of users are not paying customers but a product offered to advertisers
I like broadcast TV and radio (especially radio while driving) and think that most Americans would object to their removal.
Just look at the uproar over a few NFL games being unavailable on broadcast TV for a hint as to how well such a ban might go.
strogonoff
> I like broadcast TV and radio (especially radio while driving)
If you suggest to apply the same model to social media (where they don’t get to know about a single thing about the user, strictly one way ads) then I’d be totally for it.
However, I don’t think they’ll find this model profitable enough (advertisers like to target), and because charging users is easier with social media compared to radio broadcasting the barrier to start doing that is lower.
That is, disallowing profiting from PII and only allowing one-way ads in social media, while difficult to enforce will also mean they start charging users anyway. So why not skip that model altogether.
Local broadcast models don’t work on global scale anyway.
xyzzy123
New issue is AI. Even sites with no ads will want limits on scraping / apis / composability.
ipv6ipv4
This can be done with little AWS Lambda scripts that periodically scrape (or API) whatever sites you want and e-mail you results. All the credentials to login to whatever sites can be personal/dedicated to your instance (so no real API limits), and the usage will almost certainly fall into the AWS free tier since it's only for you.
The ideal install workflow would be to have a repo of AWS CloudFormation templates to automate the installation of the lambdas for different sites in your account. Anyone can open an AWS account, and using CloudFormation is a few fields, and a button click.
Also, if the scripts are developed properly, they are runnable locally. A sane developer will run them locally during development, and then test deployed before releasing.
vwkd
With an AWS IP and a bot usage pattern they’ll surely ban your account pretty quickly or put you in front of a CAPTCHA. I wish it was as easy as a small script. Without anti-bot techniques, sites would be overflown by scraping bots. Try to scrape a Cloudflare protected site, for example. They’re really good in figuring out if you’re human or a bot. IIRC they even fingerprint your TLS handshake or cypher suite, which ultimately made me give up with headless Chrome and Puppeteer even after proxying through my residential IP, spoofing user-agent and screen size and rate limiting. Unfortunately, there’s no way to distinguish good bots for personal usage from bad bots.
geor9e
In theory, anything is possible with months of developer work. The trouble is, there are billions of people addicted to social media. There aren't many widespread solutions to scrape it. Whenever a scraper becomes even remotely popular, Facebook takes action against it, as accessing posts outside the walled garden is a violation of their terms of service. Currently, I am using a combination of Feedbro and Nitter to scrape all the accounts I want to follow. They currently work with Facebook and have not been blocked.
ipv6ipv4
Yes.
But there is no aggregation - each user runs their own instances. For any site the offers an API, the API would need to have breaking changes to disable this, or block access from AWS.
It's easy to make work for a developer like crowd (very little time to write). It would work for most developers just fine, and could, with more considerable development time, be good for anyone.
Distributed guerilla social media deconstruction.
justnotworthit
im reminded of an ipad app 10 years ago that did roughly this, creating a magazine like interaction with your twitter, google reader, etc.
amatecha
Oh yeah, Paper.li, right? https://web.archive.org/web/20120204055823/http://paper.li/
Unfortunately they've shut down at some point, it seems (thus my linking to archive.org instead of their actual domain).
npilk
This is what I made for myself at https://www.bulletyn.co - regular email digests of content from Reddit, HN, RSS feeds, etc. It's helped me significantly cut down the amount of time I spend on Reddit particularly.
I had been planning to add Twitter before the API changes...alas.
flexagoon
You can generate an RSS feed of any twitter user using RSS Bridge:
crtasm
I tried that earlier.
"Message: Missing configuration option: twitterv2apitoken"
maxglute
I want the vision that Rabbit is selling, a headless browser that periodically scrolls through my socials and have AI assemble all entries into a readable digest. I would settle for manually scrolling through my timetime to a screen recorder that OCRs all the text and removes the fluff.
lucb1e
That sounds like a case of be the change you wish to see. Such a project sounds rather substantial, not only initially but also in upkeep. Might want to be more specific, such as "does this exist for my favorite social network called <insert network here>?"
hexage1814
I wonder if Youtube will ever do the same with Invidious by requiring an account for people to view videos.
Sure, it might seen unthinkable for this to happen in 2024, but give it more 5 or 10 years and I could see this being something acceptable to the eyes of the average user. I don't like the direction the internet is going :\
amatecha
Oh yeah, I see it as inevitable. I'm blown away that YouTube is still accessible without an account. It's only a matter of time, though, I'd wager. I never thought Twitter would require an account to view its content.
hexage1814
It's not the same site, but it's the same company: one thing that caught my attention lately is those little messages nagging you whenever you access Google without being logged in. And... those sorta passive aggressive behavior always start like this. Like, "Oh, why don't you log in? It's good for you, log in!", and as the time passes that behavior just gets more and more hostile towards the user until you end up reaching twitter/instagram levels.
ogurechny
You can try to guess the reason for such high temperature user boiling, it's not hard.
There is a single TOS and privacy agreement for all Google services. If you “just” log in to Chrome to synchronize history because “it's convenient”, you also allow everything else, including AdSense and other all-across-the-web tracking. By formally becoming a client, you lose most of legal protections against indiscriminate data collection.
amatecha
Oh yeah, that's right! I've noticed those nag modals are filling over 1/3 of my screen! On all kinds of sites! So coercive and manipulative. I can see why some people just browse with JS disabled and just forget about sites that require it.
lxgr
Why would they want to lose out on the additional ad revenue of not-logged-in users? As long as they manage to generate ad impressions, I don't think they care all that much.
qaziquza
The point being: archive with yt-dlp while we still can.
amatecha
Yes, assume every video you watch and like is going to get deleted in a week or month or year, or whatever. We don't know the timeline but it's really not a question of "if", just when.
ipaddr
It's surprising how much gets removed often by creators or youtube.
globular-toast
Not just videos. If you find something useful or enjoyable and want to ensure future access you need your own copy.
TylerE
The vast majority of content is essentially ephemeral. I don’t tend to go back and rewatch random videos from years ago.
ephbit
> I don't like the direction the internet is going :\
Haven't read "The Internet Con" yet but apparently Cory Doctorow has some ideas what can be done about this direction.
> We can – we must – dismantle the tech platforms. We must to seize the means of computation by forcing Silicon Valley to do the thing it fears most: interoperate. Interoperability will tear down the walls between technologies, allowing users to leave platforms, remix their media, and reconfigure their devices without corporate permission. Interoperability is the only route to the rapid and enduring annihilation of the platforms. The Internet Con is the disassembly manual we need to take back our internet. [1]
graphe
I don't think so, with other sites giving out free video content. If they all did...
smoldesu
Maybe this is a good moment to reconsider the acceptance of X links on HN. If users without accounts have no way to read the content, why redirect people there en-masse?
toastercat
Yes. Please disallow X/Twitter links and stop forwarding traffic to that cursed user-hostile site.
defrost
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39154536
I use a redirection extension to prepend "https://farside.link/_/" to certain domains.
For example: https://twitter.com/nasa
…becomes:
https://farside.link/_/twitter.com/nasa The underscore adds an interstitial redirection page, so you can press Back to try another instance.
The above service redirects to Nitter which still appears to be working.MallocVoidstar
Nitter currently relies on the mass generation of guest accounts, a weird anonymous form of account that was only supported by old versions of the Twitter app. Creation of them was totally disabled today, so every nitter instance will be dead in under 30 days (when they expire). Scrapers apparently also relied on this, as every public nitter instance was being hammered by scrapers earlier. Instances will probably shut down quite soon unless someone finds another way to create tens of thousands of accounts in an automated fashion for free.
londons_explore
I'm gonna guess that these guest accounts might be the reason 'usage is at an all time high' according to musk, but seems to be falling according to everyone else.
cubefox
Websites like Quora, Instagram, TikTok, and now X, work against the idea of an open Web. Content is increasingly concentrated into separated silos. But I understand why it's happening: People who don't have an account can't receive personalized ads.
bogomipz
FB, Linkedin, Pinterest as well. All of these walled gardens are "built on the shoulder of giants", whose work pioneered the open internet.
Further, what isn't silos seems to be content chum whose main purpose is collecting the reader's email address.
Oddly the modern web seems to be driving me offline and back to books.
klabb3
> FB, Linkedin, Pinterest as well. All of these walled gardens are "built on the shoulder of giants", whose work pioneered the open internet.
Very true. Using the openness when it’s convenient and actively shutting the door behind you, it’s one of the most morally reprehensible things that one can do in a shared ecosystem.
yreg
I don’t use TikTok much, but when I see a (web) link to content there it’s always publicly available.
timeon
For now.
timeon
> But I understand why it's happening
I'm not even mad at them that they want to pay the bills. What I find sad was the method they have used: capture community as big as possible and then sell the community. So many people and orgs fell for that. Now the 'squares' are closed. There is no public internet, just niches.
cubefox
Yeah it's sad. I hope Musk reverses course for X. At least in showing threads, not necessarily for individual user feeds. Perhaps when the platform is in a better financial position.
intelligencesec
The creator of the project left this comment an hour ago:
https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/1155#issuecomment-19...
(HN removed the deep link to the specific comment from the title)
promiseofbeans
lapcat
"Nitter is dead." on issue "nitter.net certificate expired on 15:08:30 GMT"
sphars
Has there been any guides about self-hosting Nitter and using your own personal account, rather than trying to generate a bunch of guest accounts?
I ask because while I no longer use Twitter, I have been using the RSS feature from Nitter to follow a few accounts that aren't available elsewhere. So if there's any way to keep doing that, I'd appreciate it if anyone has a solution. And I really don't want to login to Twitter anymore.
MallocVoidstar
Keep in mind that Twitter might ban you for doing that. They really don't like anything that could be considered scraping (unless you pay them a lot of money).
_ache_
Yeap, the Installion section of the Github Readme.md of Nitter. Docker based.
SushiHippie
They asked about using their personal account. The README does not mention this. And without a personal account, you won't have any luck with self-hosting this, as guest accounts don't work anymore.
tgsovlerkhgsel
Sadly, important content is sometimes still posted (only) in the form of Twitter threads.
Short of signing up for an account, is there currently a reasonable way of reading those?
ogurechny
Just accept that it's lost. Like tears in the rain, yada yada. Some people don't want permanent chains of information, they prefer sand mandalas that are broken after completion.
After all, it's just a big fake bullshit. There are “fabulous kids clubs” in school. There are “limited membership” snake oil selling and paper medal awarding companies. There are social network services relying on invites and other stuff to make public believe being there is something valuable. It is clear as day that Twitter is at the stage where it has to inflate usage stats by requiring sign-in, and hold user data hostage because it's one of the remaining ways to make some money. If people decide to have a nice chat in a building that is getting demolished without thinking about consequences, it's their choice, after all.
All historic MySpace data was thrown out at some point. Have people killed themselves over that? No, they simply forgot. And you will forget all that, too.
tgsovlerkhgsel
This is not about past content that is lost, this is about future content that is still being posted there.
Including things like info about security incidents that affect me.
At least I think most government authorities have stopped posting life safety information there.
mlrtime
Then login and just sub to those channels? This isn't life/death situation. It's not complicated.
tjpnz
What do you mean by important? If it's something related to public safety (civil defence for instance) then it's a real issue that you as a citizen should fight. For everything else you could just stop engaging and hope that enough others do for the content creators to get the message.
alligatorplum
Unfortunately, waiting for them to ‘get the message’ is a losing battle. The main issue i find is that non-tech related folks just don’t care enough about this stuff to move to different platform.
amatecha
Yeah, it's unfortunate as it took years for governments/municipalities/orgs etc. to start posting stuff to Twitter and embracing that modern "information pipeline" (as opposed to, at best, a rarely-updated website). Now it's taking years for them to adopt or figure out a self-hosted/self-owned alternative.
rc_mob
Often people who witness live event report what they witness on twitter. Like the boston massacre or Jan 6th attack had a lot of people reporting important eyewitness post right on social media
tgsovlerkhgsel
A classic example would be a description of the findings about some security bug or breach.
rsynnott
That’s largely on Mastodon; security-Twitter was one of the first communities to migrate.
eek2121
wget or curl.
HereIGoAgain
And with that twitter is once again dead to me.. Not even by choice. The layout/UI is utter crap and my computer hates it. I refuse to use it. For a short time i was able to read things.. guess it's back to nothing again. lol
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This is just an instance shutting down, not all of the Nitter instances. Sort of a deceptive title.