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segasuperstar
My immediate reaction was that value-wise it was a joke, how can they be worth $1 billion?
I agree with what you're saying here though, one click, ACL controlled and simple to use videos.
Concur with the enablement of the remote culture. I would have thought Atlassian could clone that so simply.
The Loom software is super buggy though, I have to open their site or extension or desktop app multiple times before it starts working, but when it does work the editing is just about OK. I have thought about using Google Meet to record my desktop, I've heard the editor in that is pretty good, and you can stop, start, trim/edit & share in Google Drive or share further with a link.
nikanj
> The Loom software is super buggy though
Perfect fit for Atlassian’s portfolio then
woleium
That’s exactly what I thought too, lol.
warthog
ahahah nice burn
wutwutwat
> My immediate reaction was that value-wise it was a joke, how can they be worth $1 billion?
It's probably way more about the in to the large install base of users to start pushing other Atlassian suite products on.
"Hey there happy Atlassian (formarly Loom) customer, since you're now in our ecosystem where products go to die, may we interest you in a Jira or a Confluence? They come with a complementary week of consecutive downtime on the house!"
brazzledazzle
Don't forget forcing everyone to their SaaS offering only to be shown not to have a validated disaster recovery plan that resulted in almost 2 weeks (4/5-4/17) of consecutive downtime for many customers. Cherry on top was the 57 customers they screwed up the backup restore for and brought back older data. By the time they realized it they had to work with the customers to merge the newer backups with the changes they'd made since the initial restore.
Atotalnoob
They are worth $1 billion due to their customer base.
tootie
I think the concern is more that they have such a small moat. Their product seems too easy to copy. But given that they are first to market, did a very a good job with what they offer and have acquired a lot of customers, that is all worth a lot of money. Is "a lot" $1B? Hard to say.
jimmySixDOF
I had to uninstall the desktop app it was uploading 6MB chunks at random times for no reason I could figure out. I hope this is an opportunity to improve their local software but not holding my breath lol the Atlassian Godzilla.
baq
People pay for it. It’s probably something like 30x revenue or whatever growth valuation but still the point stands: it’s good enough to have quite a few paying customers.
diogenes4
> I have thought about using Google Meet to record my desktop, I've heard the editor in that is pretty good, and you can stop, start, trim/edit & share in Google Drive or share further with a link.
Surely loom can't be any worse than google chrome
tempsy
They raised $200M and last raised at $1.5B.
Depending on liquidation preference clauses I don't think any employee outside the founders will make much from this sale.
runako
Would you mind sharing the ballpark arithmetic that leads to this conclusion?
lmeyerov
most of the employees came in at later rounds, so play it out. ex: They'd get say $100K in options on paper, but the pitch would be the company is high-growth, so expectation of 2X, 10X, 20X, etc over next few years. That $100K is really $200K next year, $2M the year after, etc.
Except they sold the company at a ~flat multiple over the valuation. If employees got RSUs, then at least they made say $65K after short-term capital gains (30%+). But if as options... no growth over the latest valuation's strike price, so nothing. $65K is not $200K and certainly not $2M.. and $0 is even worse.
FWIW, I'm a happy customer, am happy for the founders, and hope the new features keep rolling out through the acquisition -- our usage of Loom grows every month! The issue here is not the founders, but HR & VC. This is why joining companies with high valuations is a big risk as the VC's have already set inflated prices that ate your potential payout -- you earn on growth over the strike price at time of joining -- and these high markup companies have a lot of revenue to grow into.
darig
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hacknews20
Wow - you are wrong.
Aurornis
They raised $200M and sold for $1B.
Options from the last raise would be under water, but they operated for years before that raise. There are likely a lot of employees doing reasonably well.
abofh
The amount they raised is meaningless to an option holder, only the valuation. If the employee joined at the 1.5B valuation, they got nothing
sida
I don't think you can just say that bout the last raise.
Depends on the exercise price. Exercise price is lower than the preferred price that the investor paid. Due to the fact that investors get preferred shares.
409a can often be 20% of the preferred valuation.
aeyes
I already have Slack and it has the same feature, I don't even have to send a link. Just hit record and send the video.
I guess I don't get it.
Spivak
How does it compete with macOS screenshot in recording mode? Because that sounds basically the same flow just drag/dropping the output file into Slack.
baq
Click button, record video, paste link into slack/github vs click button, record video, figure out what to do with the useless huge file; also annotations and whatever ai they managed to put in there to summarize the transcript
Spivak
Huh? Click button, record video, "file" appears in the bottom corner of the screen, drag that into Slack or the Github editor, done. I would be worried about the links expiring, is Loom really hosting arbitrary unlimited sized video content forever for $12/mo? Damn, it's a good thing they got bought.
xctr94
macOS doesn’t record video well at all. QuickTime is the vehicle for it, often crashing, or not stopping the recording. It’s been like that for years. I don’t use Loom, but I’d never ever recommend trying to record your screen on macOS using QT.
notwhereyouare
>it's a key part of maintaining a remote culture.
is it? We don't do this at my company and I feel we have a good culture
theogravity
Loom is part of ours (our company is fully remote, no offices). One use-case is we use it to create demo videos of our work and attach it to our git pull requests so reviewers can see how to test our code changes. Others might be things like showing buggy app behavior.
AlchemistCamp
Why Loom though? There are alternatives like Awesome Screenshot that don't have a garbage Chrome-only dev/support target.
pcurve
I didn't even realize what Loom was until now. I love their product demo video on their home page. https://www.loom.com/
Brilliantly made.
And I'm completely sold on the value of this software. Screen recording is the best way to log software design defects.
andygcook
For anyone else curious, Loom raised $205M with the last round at a $1.5B valuation. This deal is for $975M in cash.
Sources: - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/loom
- https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenli1/2022/03/14/nearly-bro...
- https://twitter.com/andrew__reed/status/1712458243883110599?...
(Edit: formatting)
pyrophane
Without knowing the specific of their last round, does anyone have an idea of what selling at roughly 2/3 of their previous valuation likely means for their employees?
I know that VCs typically have some kind of "upside protection" in later rounds that guarantees them first money out in the event of a sale on some multiple of their investment, but I don't know what terms are common.
gangstead
The startup system is pretty rigged against accidentally making anyone rich who is a mere employee. That money is for the investors, not the working class. The days of the office assistant making millions on stock are long gone. There's options with huge tax implications, long vesting periods, the investors get preferred stock, they get guaranteed multiples, if there's a down round there's a carve-out that you won't be part of.
Not only do the investors have priority shares over employees, each investor can negotiate a guaranteed multiple. For example if they put in 100 million for 10% ownership but also had a 5X multiple guarantee and a sale price of 1 billion then the 500 million they walk away with ends up being 50% of the sale price. That part of the agreement isn't made public as far as I know.
neilv
If I want to found a VC-funded startup for which a successful exit is much more fair to the employees, how do I do that?
Will the investors insist that it all come out of the founders' percentage of the pie, or can I argue that the better-incentived employees mean a bigger and more likely pie, so VC terms shoudl be less grabby?
Will VCs react negatively to "being soft on" employees, even if it all comes out of founders' slice?
Do early employees get ISOs, other options, RSUs, or something else?
speculator14
A 1x liquidation preference (meaning investors get their money back before employees and other investors “below them in the capital stack” get anything) is most common. A 1.5x preference is less common. A 2x preference is rare in VC (more common in growth equity). Anything more than that is extremely rare, and a startup that was hot at the time (meaning multiple investors were competing to invest) would likely not give investors anything more. A 5x pref is unheard of. There are other types of preferences too - google “participating preferred stock” to learn more.
djbusby
Frequently Investors and Founders get money before Employees.
Investors frequently have clauses (warrants/ratchet) to increase their position if the sale wasn't at some threshold, which will affect (to downside) the basis for Employees payout.
If the Employee thought the stock was at $150/share at 1.5B they will get less than $97 on payout.
andrewstuart
I'm listening to the audiobook of "Venture Deals: Be Smarter Than Your Lawyer and Venture Capitalist "
https://www.amazon.com.au/Venture-Deals-Smarter-Lawyer-Capit...
It's worth listening to if you want to understand this stuff better.
Having just listened to this book, I would guess that this sale has not been a great outcome for the founder and employees.
wharfjumper
So someone spent $205m in 2021 and got $133m back in 2023? My guess is that Atlassian does a similar write down in a few years time. I hope the winners in this deal try to make the world a better place.
ec109685
No, they likely had a liquidation preference so at least got their money back in 2023.
athorax
Who is asking for this?
As Atlassian consolidates Loom into its platform, engineers will soon be able to visually log issues in Jira, leaders will use videos to connect with employees at scale, sales teams will send tailored video updates to clients, and HR teams will onboard new employees with personalized welcome videosdewey
I wish people would just record a video and showing what is causing them a problem. It's better than writing "I'm trying to do x and it doesn't work". At least on a video I can see the exact error message, the view they are on which browser they are using etc.
You can condition people to give you all this information but it's an uphill battle, so I'd rather just get it myself from the source if possible.
I feel like there's a misunderstanding here where people think engineers will now record videos instead of writing their usual issue description. This is clearly not the use case of Loom.
j45
My experience has been contrary to expecting developers to create videos (which is a good idea too). This approach of video first, and video tickets are prioritized has been my only approach for almost 15 years.
It started with Jing from Techsmith that had one key feature like loom - record and auto upload to the cloud and put the URL into your clipboard ready to paste into an email.
It’s surprising use of video in this way isn’t more ubiquitous.
Loom might actually be able to do the very thing you are saying it can’t. They have a few AI features that seems to auto generate a title and summary recently.
sebastiennight
Jing was such a brilliant simple concept. For years I used to make it mandatory for my team to install it.
I can't fathom how Techsmith couldn't make that work (although maybe it was just too competitive with Camtasia)... Loom is basically the same thing but limited to a Chrome extension? Or am I missing something?
Metus
I am still dreaming of something that would allow a user to file a ticket, have them record audio and video like loom to describe the issue and what they were trying to achieve, and then dump a screen record of the last minute before opening the ticket as well as as much info about the machine's state as possible. And/or maybe connecting to helpdesk with video directly. Existing software comes close but is not quite there yet.
doctaj
Azure DevOps has a browser extension that can this except record audio of the person speaking what’s happening. Also, the user experience is fine for like… power users, but it’s not super fun to use.
hiatus
I think logrocket fits the bill for web applications.
s3r3nity
>engineers will soon be able to visually log issues in Jira
I see this issue all the time in bug reports and it can be pretty helpful to see a short video on how to replicate the issue. Depending upon the type of user submitting those reports they are often _more_ helpful than straight text because I don't have to have as lengthy back-and-forth Q&A on getting more details.
j45
The free version of Jing used to have a 5 minute limit and it was the perfect constraint to ensure short or multiple videos
TheRealDunkirk
Good grief. If the age of YouTube has taught us anything, it's that creating good video of something takes a lot more skill than writing something decent about something. Trying to find the relevant issue in a bunch of unrelated info, within a long writeup, which a user necessarily edits, at least a little, by the nature of writing something out? Pretty easy. Trying to find it in a rambling, 15-minute video? Welp! Good luck, Jira people.
butlike
The best thing about video is it tethers me to the speed of the content the rambling, 15-minute video content creator mandated; not the speed I can peruse an article.
Also the first person to invent Ctrl+F for video will be a billionaire.
city17
Not quite Ctrl F, but Loom does use some AI magic to summarize videos and automatically add sections so you can skip to the interesting bits quickly. Only used it once recently, but it perfectly divided my video according to the 3 points I was addressing.
debugnik
> Also the first person to invent Ctrl+F for video will be a billionaire.
At least YouTube (desktop web) lets you open the (often auto-generated) captions as a transcript on the side.
paradox460
YouTube has transcripts of varying quality, and tools like kagi's universal summarizer can handle videos as well
j45
Look let’s you play back the video faster.
Also has captioning, transcripts and summarization.
For when a bug doesn’t seem possible, video remains invaluable.
mistersquid
> Trying to find the relevant issue in a bunch of unrelated info, within a long writeup, which a user necessarily edits, at least a little, by the nature of writing something out? Pretty easy.
This sentiment is one of the reasons why so much documentation is not good.
Writing good, usable, technical documentation is HARD.
rqtwteye
I doubt people will record 15 minute videos to report an issue. From my experience people are much better at recording a relevant video vs. describing the issue in our text.
lelanthran
My experience with enterprise customers is that recording a video is much more effort than typing "the thingy won't foo the bar" ...
j45
It’s super common and reasonable if it saves days and dozens of emails just to replicate
torton
The standards are not nearly the same. A team-internal Loom is not intended to be a viral polished social media clip.
Here's a sample scenario from one of my previous jobs: a PR is not getting reviews. After a day I record a three-minute Loom where I walk through the problem and the solution, and post it on the team's channel. A few hours later the PR is approved, without any synchronous work and without me having to spend twenty minutes thinking out and typing out a blog sized post on Slack on the same topic. If anyone ever feels the need to dig out that commit again, the Loom is still accessible.
Loom found a way to solve real problems without more typing or more meetings, and that's why it's been successful. Slack, by the way, has a "record a clip now" feature that I liked even more than Loom for the purpose; but by that point we already standardized on Loom and Loom is better at organizing clips.
MenhirMike
I am going to assume that the userbase of Loom doesn't need to pad videos to 10 Minutes because the algorhithm only suggests videos that have enough space for ads, and I've never heard "Make sure to like and subscribe" and "You can edit your privacy settings here. Speaking of Privacy, did you know that your ISP can read all your stuff? Sign up for a free month of BarfVPN using my link" in any of the videos attached to pull requests or bug reports.
j45
Having users submit a bug by video is literally one of the biggest biggest cheat codes.
Have been using it for a very long time (I still miss Jing!)
There is no emailing back and forth meaninglessly. The user just records and talks about what they want to do and what hats happening.
The support side sees exactly how the user is doing it to make it instantaneous to replicate the issue.
There is no need for the user to give detailed screenshots and type up a whole scenario.
bayindirh
Well, being able to screen record a reproduction of a bug is practical, and it's easy to do it in macOS or Linux, but I'm not sure about this on Windows.
Maybe a unified tool with a better integration will allow better bug reports, but pep talks by management at scale? No, thanks.
jahnu
Is it easy to do on macOS if system sound is needed to demonstrate the bug?
bayindirh
There are dummy drivers which bypass that limitation when required. I didn't install them, since I never needed sound to demonstrate something.
itslennysfault
Not sure with the OS tool, but QuickTime is on all Macs and it's screen recorder can record system audio and/or microphone audio easily.
fidotron
Video is one of those things everyone thinks everyone else would want but when faced with using it themselves they find it violently annoying. i.e. ideal for enterprise sales.
That said there is a niche of user testing video capture and so on, but that is not what this is.
tekla
> personalized welcome videos
Kill me please.
threeseed
If the alternative is going back into the office to watch it in person I will take the video.
malermeister
at 2x speed while having the tab backgrounded
theogravity
We actually do some of that with Loom, mainly recording app bugs for others to repro, or demoing new features so code reviewers know how to test the feature. The videos are often short, less than 2 mins.
zoogeny
I applied to Loom several years ago while they were still tiny. The CEO sent me a Loom thanking me for applying and asking me to send him back a Loom describing why I was excited to work for his company. Something about that rubbed me the wrong way at the time. I didn't reply and dipped out of the interview process.
latchkey
Wow, what a great filter the CEO came up with. If someone doesn't want to use the product, they probably won't make a good fit to work there.
malfist
You don't have to drink the koolaide to be a productive member of the team.
Drinking the koolaide doesn't mean you'll be a productive member of the team.
Pretty pointless of a filter
HL33tibCe7
Maybe in a big company, but actually I completely disagree with this in the context of a small startup. In that context, having a tight team of people who are highly passionate about the product is _essential_.
paxys
Using the product your company makes in the way it is intended to be used isn't "drinking the koolaid". If you aren't comfortable doing that then you really shouldn't be working there.
jameshush
I mean... you don't HAVE to, you're right. However, hiring for most engineering roles is a filtering problem rather than a sourcing problem. I'd rather hire a Javascript engineer who'll at least _pretend_ to be excited about the job than hire a Javascript engineer who is lukewarm to cold right out of the gate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
jjtheblunt
I think the point is the CEO was aware of the old advice "make what you'd want to use", and just decided to roll with that advice in mind.
namuol
At an early stage startup it’s absolutely critical.
latchkey
Did you mean to say the same thing two different ways?
> koolaide
In reference to the product, it is Kool-Aid.
lawn
Is using a product once as an interview task really that unreasonable?
It's not like he was asking you to adopt Loom into your life or to drink the koolaide.
1123581321
I like that. Much faster than writing a cover letter or application email and shows you understand what they make. I take it you weren’t that interested in their product.
dimgl
This is hysterical. Looks like the CEO was spot-on.
paxys
Why even apply to a company if you don't want to use their product?
zoogeny
I thought (and still think) their product is a great idea.
Some people here seem to think my objection was being asked to use the product. It was actually the content of the message I was asked to send that bothered me. It wasn't "explain how your experience would be useful in this role", or "explain your feelings on the technical aspects of this product". It was something closer to "show me how excited you are to work here".
I don't know why but at the time it felt like being asked to grovel. My stupid pride, I guess.
paxys
Well were you excited to work there? For a startup that usually matters as much or more than technical skills and experience. If the founders are giving you a significant chunk of equity in their company then they want to make sure you are in it for the right reasons, and won't bounce as soon as you reach your vesting cliff.
If you think answering this simple question is a hit on your pride then yeah, you were probably not a good fit.
tqi
I don't feel like it's necessary to take sides on this one - seems like Loom gave you some signal on what company culture looked like on the inside, and you decided it wasn't a good match. Seems like a positive interaction/outcome for both parties?
nugget
In my experience as a founder, excitement to work in a particular area is way more important than experience/skills. Ideally you have both. But lack of enthusiasm for a product, especially a niche product, kills a culture.
1123581321
I’m sure they didn’t mean to give you that impression. That’s a good lesson for people making these requests. If the CEO had worded it more evenly (“send me a Loom about what interests you in working for Loom”) you might’ve sent one in, and the people who wanted to demonstrate sheer enthusiasm to maximally fulfill the request still would’ve.
(Also, I still think you didn’t much like the product… :) )
notJim
At a startup, you need people who are excited to make the product a success, not just someone who's gonna churn through tickets and tick off boxes. They were probably looking to see if you were going to commit at that level. Totally get why this rubs some people the wrong way, but probably just means it's not a good fit.
rchaud
Because I don't want to be deluged with marketing emails after signing up for yet another SaaS.
WXLCKNO
That's fine. Your options would have only been worth
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Millions of dollars.
woeirua
Nope. Loom was last valued at $1.5 billion in 2021, so with this acquisition a lot of people's options undoubtedly got totally wiped out due to liquidation preferences.
y_gy
This comment misunderstands how liq pref works. Liq pref is about the amount of money invested ($175M), not about the valuation. At a $975M exit and a par-for-the-course liq pref of 1.0, it is very likely that all shareholders will have made money on the exit.
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conqrr
At some point, companies become big enough that innovation is a risk (Innovater's dilemma). Atlassian is likely at this stage. Ofcourse, loom's tech is nothing impressive, one could argue that only a small segment of enterprise Loom customers would be willing to convert to Atlassian ecosystem. Nonetheless, the show must go on and Atlassian has to choose action instead of inaction to please the stock market. Good exit for loom though!
faramarz
I think it's more likely that Atlassian gives it away for free to its client base .. groups like Linear are coming after them and tools like Loom make a material difference in getting quality work out the door. we use it for outward facing and training material, but the royal honey is when you can async-align on product initiatives down to the pixel. Video is a powerful story telling tool in today's remote world.
Figma on the other hand will have to sway towards Atlassian territory to add value to the tech bit of the pipeline. the dev mode has made it clear they are headed that way, on their own terms.
I just wish that more founders prioritize enterprise customers and clear the way to onboard by investing in compliance (SOC-2) reporting early! it's a total showstopper and that's unfortunate for all sides.
dalex00
Atlassian gives not much out for free the new whiteboard feature in confluence will also be monetizes like everything.
E.g. automations for their products will cost soon meaning you need to upgrade your product to next tier. After we implemented everywhere...
eastbound
Atlassian is not afraid of innovating, they can’t. They just hired the worst developers again and again. Good students go to Canva, dropouts go to Atlassian.
Talk to partners. Everyone is pulling their hair at the new APIs. It’s architecturally bad, inside their systems. Even the architects are outputting crap! The best programmers of the company!
I’ve move my data outside Atlassian to prevent loss…
heisgone
In 25 years, Atlassian is by far the worse platform I had to write code for. Worse than Oracle. You smell the pile of turd you are sitting on at every corner. For obvious reason, they embraced the corporate agile movement and can't coordonate anything. Their software is a patchwork of nonsense.
thenerdhead
Glad for the founders, but I cannot help but think this is such an overpriced acquisition for a glorified screen capture tool and ecosystem.
Now you can attach videos to jira tickets, seems a bit overkill.
zelphirkalt
Waiting for a future, where you cannot simply look at a ticket, but have to skip through a video over and over again, just like with voice messages that people send on messengers. Instead of having to think about clear writing in tickets, one has a vague not well defined speech in a video. Then maybe they will add automatic transcription and again people will think "Now it's all fine!", which of course it won't be.
binarymax
At 25M users it's about $40 per user, and Atlassian needs some kind of screencast data to bolster their future in training project management models. Also, they can afford it, so it's a good time to get into the market.
thenerdhead
Hopefully they aren't paying for all those ghost users from the pandemic hype. Could be a good acquisition but Atlassian somewhat known for just buying useless crap.
objclxt
It’s a bargain compared to their Series C valuation in 2021 of $1.5 billion.
thenerdhead
Not really a discount if you arguably don't need to buy it in the first place! That valuation to begin with is ridiculous with their DAU.
kylecordes
Ouch. I wonder how much of the exit value got absorbed by their preference stack.
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NKosmatos
Oh great, that’s what Jira and Confluence needed in order to make them more sluggish, less responsive and more user unfriendly… a video messaging platform integration. Good grief, who thinks of these things :-(
With 1 billion and a team of software developers, I would put Jira and Confluence back on the right road, not acquire a video company ;-)
j45
Agreed.
The loom integration has been useful to attract some users who don’t use Jira otherwise.
I just wish Jira-1369 would get solved after 20 years because users refuse to adopt Jira or confluence when they’re getting waterboarded with notifications instead of a timed digest that can be set.
jedberg
Jira-1369 was closed four years ago.
j45
As one of jira’s bigger brain farts, it seems it’s was recreated and continued in a new ticket.
Open: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRACLOUD-1369
Closed: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-1369
The original JRA-1369 was opened in 2003. Addressed a little in 2019, but not the digests to solve it all. Odd since plug-ins have to. closing this is one way to improve optics I guess.
Ps, I don’t hate Jira. Wasn’t a huge fan and it took a few years to see the light of what it does that so few platforms do when it comes to being able to absorb complexity as it evolves.
Managing evolving complexity is a real thing, and the pain can be reduced by having more in one tool vs not. It’s a tough space, and I think Aha.Io is one tool suited to win their prize and grow into Jira’s space.
Their worst sin remains how many people are subjected to an out of the box install compared to one that is setup to your processes. Tweaking it makes such a difference.
mschuster91
Can Atlassian just for once first go and stabilize their existing product lineup before trying to shoehorn yet another thing into their offering?
I mean, it's basic stuff that just isn't possible on JIRA Cloud for example, like setting a global sender address for notification emails - something perfectly possible on on-premise installations, but on Cloud you have to do that for each project and you can't even set it up as a default for new projects.
Or maybe what about a first-party Terraform provider. Or a support that's actually worth the name instead of underpaid callcenter employees that seem to have to strictly follow some sort of script instead of actually being allowed to use their brains or to properly read what customers write them.
That billion $ they just dumped out on this acquisition could have been invested into their existing products.
technics256
If you have a mac, Cleanshot X I find is better across the board
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breakfastduck
Absolutely brilliant software. I use it absolutely constantly at work, brilliant UX and it fits into macOS so well.
Have yet to find anything remotely close in terms of quality for screen capture / annotation / recording.
xyst
Such a clean app. Would probably use this if I haven’t mastered usage of Final Cut Pro.
yes it’s overkill, but it’s one less tool I have to learn.
I do like its ability to capture scrolling content. Would buy it just for that.
Also a plus: one time fee w/ optional upgrades. Definitely a plus
terpimost
I wish they would have web/windows/linux version
porridgeraisin
Sharex does all that and more, it's there for windows. I don't know the wine story for it though. It's a .net app
m1keil
+1. One of these apps that makes leaving macOS impossible.
Zambyte
From loom.com
> Loom works wherever you do.
> Get Loom for Free
> For Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android
Looks like Loom does not work wherever I do.
CalRobert
All of our backend devs (including myself) are on Linux (and use Firefox) so Loom was a nonstarter for us.
otachack
It's always a blast when technology and marketing collide.
j45
It’s surprising loom doesn’t work on Linux. I wonder why.
pcmaffey
Also loom does not work at all offline, even the video recording…
butlike
I suspect this will become a more-and-more common occurance as deep fake videos become more ubiquitous. There will have to be some mechanism to validate the origin of the video is truly from the content creator. If the video was created offline and uploaded after the fact, who knows if it's generated audio super-imposed over a deep fake?
VTimofeenko
In that case it's possible to generate a deepfake offline, then open the video in a player and record that. I doubt online-ness by itself will do anything if it's still just a video signal leaving the machine.
davinci123
Atlassian has a record of failed acquisitions: Bitbucket, HipChat, Trello, OpsGenie,.. and the list goes on. Add Loom to that list.
In this market, when every single collab company is struggling, Atlassian goes and acquires a collab company when there are so many companies in the DevTools space or get your pick in AI. Spending a billion on a video sharing tool? Unsure what they were thinking and who all are advising the founders. I see the Aussie connection though..
no_wizard
I was not aware Trello is considered a failure.
BitBucket and Hipchat, for sure.
OpsGenie, until the really bad way they handled an outage last year, it was, sometimes begrudgingly, widely used, recommended sometimes even.
Trello, on the other hand, seems like what everyone wants to use but no organization seems to want to let people use. Everyone that uses Trello seemingly, likes it
namuol
They didn’t spend a billion for the tech, they spent it for the huge userbase already full of fledgling enterprise leads. It’s a lead generation acquisition. I do hope they don’t ruin the product, though.
chenster
This reminds Buffer how simple the idea was and how well they executed it. A good product doesn't have to be complex.
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Loom is probably the simplest billion-dollar piece of software, but it's also excellent software and I am happy they're getting paid.
Screen recording before Loom was a pain. You had to open up some program, start it, save the file, upload the file somewhere, and share it. And if you had to edit the recording at all ... probably start over.
With Loom it's all one click and it's ready to share the instant you hit the Stop button. At my company we make and share dozens of Looms per day and it's a key part of maintaining a remote culture.